as the "new york times" pointed out earlier today, president obama now seems to be changing his position. now, their report reads in part, quote, in the past week amid intelligence reports that some precursor chemicals have been mixed for possible use as weapons, mr. obama's red line appears to have shifted. his warning against moving weapons has disappeared from his public pronouncements as well as those of secretary of state hillary rodham clinton. if we hold the president accountable for what he said in august, we've crossed the red line. joining us is former new mexico governor bill richardson and andrew mccarthy. governor, he said that we have -- you know, a red line is here for us if we start seeing chem weapons being moved around. chemical weapons are being moved around. now he actually shifted his statement today, if they used them. what does that show but weakness for america if he doesn't mean what he says? >> well, i don't believe the president has changed his position. i'm not privy to all the discussions, but it's been very clear that the latest words are they're going to be